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STEM Tuesday– Computers– Author Interview

Welcome to STEM Tuesday: Author Interview, a repeating feature for the last Tuesday of every month. Go Science-Tech-Engineering-Math!

Today, we’re interviewing Martha Brockenbrough author of Future Tense: How We Made Artificial Intelligence and How It Will Change Everything (Feiwel & Friends, March 2024). This 23-chapter deep dive into the history, prevalence, and future of artificial intelligence is sprinkled with black-and-white photos and sidebars.

About the book:

Unlike the wheel, combustion engines, or electricity, AI does the thing that humans do best: think. While AI hasn’t reproduced the marvelously complex human brain, it has been able to accomplish astonishing things. AI has defeated our players at games like chess, Go, and Jeopardy!. It’s learned to recognize objects and speech. It can create art and music. It’s even allowed grieving people to feel as though they were talking with their dead loved ones.

On the flip side, it’s put innocent people in jail, manipulated the emotions of social media users, and tricked people into believing untrue things.

In this nonfiction book for teens, acclaimed author and teacher Martha Brockenbrough guides readers through the development of this world-changing technology, exploring how AI has touched every corner of our world, including education, healthcare, work, politics, war, international relations, and even romance. This is essential reading for anyone who wants to understand how artificial intelligence got here, how to make the best use of it, and how we can expect it to transform our lives.

Future Tense: How We Made Artificial Intelligence and How It Will Change Everything

Linda: This is a timely subject that affects writers, publishers, and other creatives. What inspired you to take on this project?

Martha: I started research on this book after my biography of Donald Trump, UNPRESIDENTED, came out. During his first run for the presidency, bots attempted to influence opinions and divide Americans. This got me interested in the many ways artificial intelligence will affect our lives. So I started researching everything I could. 

Linda: You covered a lot of ground in this book: the history of AI, the pros and cons, relationships with AI, the future, and more. What was your research process like, and how did you keep track of so much information?

Martha: I’m not gonna lie, Linda! It was an enormous challenge. I wanted there to be a lot of ways into the book for readers. Some people are really into tech. Some are more into the history of science. Some people like reading stories about people. I read books about the history of science. I read some books that got into the implications (I agreed with some and disagreed with others). I listened to tons of podcasts. Watched videos. 

When I am first researching a subject, I’m trying to get a sense of the big picture. I didn’t know anything about A.I., really. To understand it fully, I wanted to understand the history. Also, the practical bits of how it works. And that’s what helped me write the later chapters, where I engaged in some predicting. Those chapters were very much guided by my questions. Honestly, the whole book was. That’s how I write, most of the time. Questions and my best shot at answers.  

As I learn, I write about what I’m learning and where I learned it, and the deeper I get into things, the more I start to see the shape of the story. When you’re writing nonfiction, it is so important that you keep track of what you’re learning and where it came from, because you will need to demonstrate that for fact-checkers and to make footnotes, if you’re using them (I always use them in longer works). There are tools like Zotero that you can use to keep track of your research, but I am a big fan of spreadsheets and tabs. Also? I put the footnotes in as I write. It does slow the writing down, but the saddest writers in the world I’ve met are the ones who are “finished” with their books and suddenly realize they haven’t done their footnotes.

Linda: Do you have any fun facts that you learned about AI that you’d like to share?

Martha: I don’t know that this is fun, but it’s useful. Human beings have a propensity to form emotional bonds with bots. When I was working on my book, this was not something people were talking about. Now, it is. But I really wanted readers to understand this tendency and how vulnerable it makes us. So, put up some guardrails. Don’t personify any AI tools you use. Don’t disclose information to them that you wouldn’t tell a stranger. Understand that bots are primarily designed not to serve you, but to make a profit or influence you in some way. Now, we can get some utility out of certain kinds of AI, even generative AI. But there is always a cost to it. 

OK, now this is more fun. AI is being used for all sorts of cool purposes, including understanding what animals are saying. Maybe someday, my dream will come true, and I’ll be able to talk with animals. 

Linda: Now, that would certainly be entertaining. Martha, what do you hope readers take away from this book?

Martha: I hope they’ll have a deep understanding of why humans make tools, why AI represents a change in the type of tool we make, and that the “is it good/is it bad” question is an oversimplification. Like any tool, it can make life better. It can also cause harm—both intended and unintended. We are at a turning point in technological history, as well as a turning point in political history, where the very wealthy—many of whom are profiting from this technology—have a great deal of political power. I want readers to understand this technology and become engaged citizens so we can ensure AI serves humanity and the planet. Unless we ensure AI is optimized to serve humanity instead of simply being profitable, it represents an existential threat. We cannot prepare for things we don’t understand, and I wanted to prepare the next generation as well as I could. 

Linda: The book has a wealth of information about AI that could benefit students, and the chapter about AI in the world today was enlightening. Technology teachers might find it useful in their classrooms. How do you envision the book being used by students, teachers, and librarians?

Martha: I hope people get from it what interests them. There’s history, there’s some computer science, there’s futurism and a splash of biography—follow your interests. That’s what we should ideally be doing as readers. I hope that the information is such that readers recognize AI where they’re seeing it in the world, and that they have gained enough understanding of how it works to ensure their safety and prosperity. 

Linda: Ironically, technology is changing technology jobs. I programmed computers for fifteen years. I’ve always embraced technological advancements; however, if my job had become obsolete because of AI, I don’t think I would have welcomed it. How do you feel about AI?

Martha: Generative AI that is based on intellectual property theft is an outrage. The people who designed these tools protect their IP vigorously and absolutely knew better. That said, these same tools, trained responsibly, could save a lot of labor. Let’s say you’re a coder and AI does a first draft for you, and then you fine-tune. I can see where that would be useful. But I think we need to be measured in our glee about this. Lots of tech has saved certain kinds of labor, and we aren’t working shorter days or work weeks. In the end, the only people who benefit from the saved labor are the people at the top, who are highly paid and have company ownership and other benefits. 

With AI, a lot of people are going to lose their jobs. The solution to this is to have a universal basic income and adequate housing, health care, and the rest. Otherwise, we are going to see a lot of suffering. 

Certain jobs, I don’t think, should be replaced by AI. For example, writing stories or making art. No problem is being solved when you have generative AI gush this stuff out. These are human pleasures and human challenges, and AI-produced art is grotesque. The purpose of art is to make us feel something, and if it’s a machine that cannot feel doing that, well, it’s being emotionally manipulated by a machine. Does anyone actually want that? Is that what we want to subject our children to? 

On the flip side, there is great potential with AI to solve complex problems based on pattern recognition and production. Say, for example, taking novel viruses and rapidly developing vaccines to prevent infection. That’s cool. I love it when technology is a solution to a problem and not just an engine of profit. That’s when humanity and our tools are at our best. 

Linda: I totally agree. When AI helps us find cures and solutions, it’s a hero. When it’s being fed pirated work, it’s a thief. Martha, you certainly opened my eyes to the many places where we encounter artificial intelligence and how it is transforming our world. Thank you so much for joining us!


Martha Brockenbrough (rhymes with “broken toe”) is the author of 29 books, including YA fiction and nonfiction, picture books, middle-grade novels, and a chapter book series.

She is the Program Director for the MFA in Writing for Young Readers at the University of San Francisco. She founded National Grammar Day, wrote game questions for Cranium and Trivial Pursuit, was the editor of MSN.com, and has interviewed lots of celebrities, including the Jonas Brothers, Jason Bateman, Mike Myers, and Slash. She also wrote an educational humor column for Encarta for nine years. 

She lives in Seattle with her family. Besides reading and writing, she likes dogs, cats, cooking, working out, and laughing. 

Linda Zajac is the author of Robo-Motion: Robots That Move Like Animals and eight Minecraft books for kids. She is an award-winning science writer and a former computer programmer and systems analyst. Find her at www.lindarosezajac.com

From the Classroom – Building and Organizing a Classroom Library

What better way to greet students as we head back to school than with an amazing classroom library! Whether you are building a classroom library or reorganizing one, here are a few ideas for you to consider.

Building a Classroom Library

A well-stocked, high-quality classroom library can generate interest and motivation, support differentiated reading instruction, and help develop expert readers in your classroom. But sometimes it’s overwhelming on knowing where to start. Below are some amazing resources if you are struggling to figure out where to find high quality books.

One rule of thumb is to have anywhere from 10-20 books per students in your classroom at a variety of text lengths, genres, grade levels, and so forth. The more diverse the better!

Organizing a Classroom Library

While there is no wrong way to set up a classroom library, the following questions should guide your thinking on how you organize your library and situate it in your classroom.

  • When you walk in your classroom, does the library jump out or is it invisible?
  • Does the library have display areas for “teacher recommended” and “student recommended” books?
  • Are there books related to students’ cultural backgrounds and communities?
  • Is there a clear system for organizing the books, a check-in and check-out system, and a way to monitor students’ selections?

Two of the best books I’ve seen that help organize your classroom library and answer all of the questions above and MUCH, MUCH MORE are below (click on each picture for the website link):

Commonsense Guide to classroom library cover with shelves full of books

 

cover of It's all about the books with books making the shape of a heart

 

Of course a well-stocked, well-organized library is only good if you get students excited to use it! Make sure you plan lots of book talks, help your students find books they will like to read, and keep new books coming in throughout the school year to keep the classroom library fresh and a place to be!

What are your plans for your classroom library this year? Share your ideas in the comments section below!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interview with Middle Grade Author M.D. Payne

Author Photo of Matt Payne sitting in a chair

M. D. Payne on His Newest Book Pumpkin Apocalypse

Karen Reeder: Matt, when I saw the cover and title of Pumpkin Apocalypse on the list of interview opportunities I was like, ‘yes! That ridiculousness is just what I need in my and my kids’ life! (And I hope you take ridiculous as the compliment it is intended) I really enjoyed reading Pumpkin Apocalypse and look forward to sharing it with my kids! Thank you for a chance to chat about this fun story!

M.D. Payne: Yes, of course, it’s such a pleasure to chat with you, and I totally appreciate the “ridiculous” comment. That’s totally what I was going for, so I’m happy to know it landed!

Cover Image of Pumpkin Apocalypse by M. D. Payne

Pumpkin Apocalypse

KR: We all know that kids have limited attention spans. If you ran into me on vacation and we were in an elevator to the lobby with us and our kids, how would your kids pitch your book to my kids?

MDP: My 7-year-old would say, “It’s a book about evil pumpkins trying to take over the world!!” My 14-year-old would say, “My dad’s a weirdo.” They’re both right in their own way.

KR: Can you tell us what inspired Pumpkin Apocalypse?

MDP: Every year, we bring millions of pumpkins into our homes, or onto our porches, and it made me laugh to think, “What if they were all evil!?” Like, if they wanted to take over the world, they’ve got a pretty big reach! Not to mention, I can’t think of anything more boring than a vegetable sitting in your house, so spicing up the idea of what they’re capable of is fun.

KR: Ha! A Vegetable sitting in your house! I never thought of it like that. You certainly made pumpkins all more fun! And maybe a little disconcerting.

Is any of the book based on personal experience?

MDP: Yes, I’ve been possessed by pumpkins!!! Wait, just kidding. (But if anyone has, please reach out and let me know…). Ahem. I mean, the story was based on a number of childhood experiences that I pieced together to make this completely fictional story seem real. Scenes like the kids talking over lunch in the lunchroom brought me back to my school lunchrooms (Rio Vista Elementary in San Bernardino, California; Stephensen Middle School in Mountain Home, Idaho), and a lot of the teachers and students were inspired by real people (in middle school, I actually had a Principal Prouty and Mr. Stewart was my science teacher). Molly is based on my daughter (the aforementioned 14-year-old), and my Grandfather’s voice was literally in my head when I wrote the character of Gramps.

Author Photo of Matt Payne sitting in a chair

M. D. Payne Middle Grade Author

KR: Love it! What about with you? What character from PA was childhood you most like? And can you share an example of how you were like that character?

MDP: I think I was most like Adam in childhood: the smart kid who was content reading a book. Though I’m a lot like Molly in that I’m such a people person (even though I wrote the character based on my daughter).

KR: PA feels like something that kids will just eat up! How do you channel your inner child when writing for kids?

MDP: There’s a certain freedom found in writing for kids — you get to bend the rules a little bit and be…what’s the word…oh, yeah, a little more “ridiculous,” and I love that. When I write, I think back to my days in elementary school and middle school, and what seemed to matter back then, and how it really all came down to having fun with your friends: life just wasn’t as serious, though emotions seemed so much bigger! So letting the emotions be bigger, but letting the fun and friendships feel bigger, too…

KR: One of the main characters is constantly battling a childhood fear. Are you willing to share a childhood fear of your own and if it affected you in anyway growing up?

MDP: I was terrified of bees and wasps when I was a kid. When I was four, a friend dared me to poke a wasp nest with a stick. I did…and was suddenly covered in wasps. I was stung more than a dozen times before my dad hosed them all off of me, and hosed the wasp nest. From that point on, any flying insect that buzzed near me FREAKED ME OUT. I had zero control over my reaction, I’d just jump and scream and flail. When I was a teen, I bent my dad’s car key because I slammed into his arm when a bee buzzed me while he was unlocking the door. To a certain extent, I still am terrified of bees and wasps, I’ve just learned how to control it better. But it’s a shock into my hardwiring that I’ll always live with. (Hmmm…could Bee Apocalypse be a sequel!?!)

KR: Yes! We definitely need a Bee Apocalypse book from you!

Your family is on a road trip in your family RV, you have a closet filled with something that represents something about your family, it is also what you are going to have to use to fight off possessed pumpkins. What are those objects?

MDP: I married into an Italian family, so our RV’s closet would be a pantry chock-full of homemade jarred tomato sauce, herbs, pasta, Italian Bread, probably fresh cucumbers and tomatoes. I’m not sure how we’d use all of that to fight off possessed pumpkins, unless they have a natural aversion to meatballs or Sunday sauce. Though we could send my mother-in-law out and she’d cook them into something delicious!

KR: Oh, I can’t wait to try what she cooks up! Can we expect more from you with Adam and Molly and their town? Anything else that you have in the works that we can look forward to?

MDP: I’m currently working on another book with these characters, and it’s been fun to revisit Little Pine! I can’t say much about the book yet, except that pumpkins are no longer involved, but a super-creepy haunted house is. But this is not your regular haunted house…(insert evil laughter).

Lightning Round

KR: What is the best part about fall?

MDP: The crisp air!

KR: Your writing snack?

MDP: Anything that won’t make my fingers messy while I type. Popcorn is a go-to.

KR: Favorite vacation spot?

MDP: A lakeside cabin.

KR: Best reading spot?

MDP: My bed.

KR: Favorite holiday?

MDP: If you can’t guess by now…

KR: Hobby when not writing?

MDP: Hiking or drumming

KR: Something you dressed up as for Halloween as a child?

MDP: A vampire. Like 1,000 times. But my James Madison costume in 4th Grade might be the most unique.