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Follow the Water: Interview with Author Ellen Cochrane

How long would you last by yourself… in the Amazon rainforest… after surviving a plane crash?  Although this sounds like a work of fiction, Ellen Cochrane’s new book, Follow the Water, is an account of Juliane Koepcke’s unbelievable survival story.

In addition, Ellen includes informational sections that explain in better detail facts about the Amazon, including information on plants, animals, weather, and the culture and beliefs. I enjoyed interviewing her to learn more…

About the Book

Hi Ellen! Wow, what a life Julianne has led! Thank you for bringing her story to life. Can you give a summary of your new book, Follow the Water?

Follow the Water tells the true survival story of Juliane Koepcke, a 17-year-old girl who fell two miles from the sky when her plane disintegrated over the Amazon rainforest in 1971. She survived the fall—alone—then trekked for eleven days through flooded jungle, following her father’s advice to “follow the water” until she reached help.

The book blends narrative storytelling with science, ecology, and survival principles. It emphasizes how careful observation, rational thinking, and scientific understanding can guide decision-making—even in moments of fear. At a time when public conversation can be driven by opinion, rumor, or online manipulation, the story gently reinforces the value of evidence-based thinking and attention to the natural world.

About the Author

I’d love to learn more about you. What was your path to becoming a writer? (and your connection to writing nonfiction)

I began as a journal writer and kept detailed notebooks for years before publishing professionally. I’ve been a magazine writer for many years, working in narrative nonfiction, natural history, and had a wildlife column.

I’ve always been drawn to real stories—especially those rooted in wilderness, history, and resilience. Nonfiction allows me to combine research with storytelling and to explore how knowledge shapes survival.

Were there any books that inspired the style you wrote in?

I’m inspired by nature- and natural history–driven narratives that combine story with close observation of the land. Writers like Jim Kjelgaard, especially in works such as Big Red and Irish Red, shaped my understanding of how landscape and animals can function as a characters.

I aim for immersive storytelling grounded in research, where environment, science, and human decision-making intersect.

Tell us about your upcoming books.

My next book, The Siberian, is a wilderness survival story set in the Russian Far East involving family bonds and tiger conservation.

I’m also developing a narrative STEM project centered on young people making authentic scientific discoveries—story-driven, interview-based, and focused on how curiosity leads to real-world insight.

On Writing Nonfiction

Why did you choose to tackle this topic?

Juliane’s story stayed with me from the moment I learned about it. A teenage girl survives a lightning strike midair, a two-mile fall, and eleven days alone in the Amazon.

But what truly drew me in was that she survived because she paid attention. She understood the jungle. She remembered her father’s lessons. This is a story about knowledge, observation, and composure under pressure.

I should also add that I was an exchange student in Peru as a teenager and flew the same jungle flight path where Juliane’s accident occurred. That personal connection deepened my interest in her story and the region.

What was your main source of information?

My primary sources included Juliane Koepcke’s memoir, archival aviation records, scientific studies on the Amazon ecosystem, and contemporary news accounts.

Juliane has long been deeply uncomfortable with the intense attention surrounding her survival and the intrusion into her private life. She does not give personal interviews about the accident. However, she is enthusiastic about discussing Panguana, the biological research station her parents founded. She continues to advocate for it and works to expand and protect its acreage.

Because I can read Spanish and I have a conversational ability, I was able to access and study original Spanish-language news reports and archival materials, which helped deepen the historical accuracy of the book.

Any tips for writing a biography when interviewing the subject isn’t an option?

  • Rely on primary documents and firsthand accounts.
  • Cross-check every detail through multiple sources.
  • Study the setting and historical context thoroughly.
  • Avoid inventing interior thoughts or dialogue.

Careful research creates narrative credibility.

You have an interesting mix of story and informational sections. What was your thought process on setting up the book in this way?

I structured the book so the narrative carries emotional momentum, while the informational sections—what I think of as science features or contextual notes—deepen understanding.

When Juliane encounters a river, readers learn how river systems work. When she faces insects or predators, readers learn the ecology behind them.

Illustrations in the book by Caroline Church

The goal is immersion paired with understanding.

Writers sometimes have difficulty knowing how to bring a biography to life. Any tips?

  • Begin with tension.
  • Anchor scenes in sensory details supported by research.
  • Keep stakes visible.
  • Focus on decisions and consequences.

Readers connect when they see how choices shape outcomes.

How did you handle dialogue?

I included only dialogue documented in reliable sources in print and media. When exact wording was unavailable, I summarized rather than invented.

Restraint is essential in narrative nonfiction.

For Teachers

Do you have a curriculum guide or discussion questions posted online?

A curriculum guide and discussion materials will be available on my website in April.

Are you doing school visits related to this book?

Yes. I present to students in grades five through high school.

Presentations focus on:

  • Survival science
  • Amazon ecology
  • Decision-making under pressure
  • How research becomes narrative nonfiction
  • The role of scientific thinking in real-world problem-solving

I offer both in-person visits in Northern California and Zoom conversations for schools elsewhere. My school presentations are free; I do not charge.

How can we learn more about you?

Website: www.ellencochrane.com
Social media: Facebook: @CochraneEllen | Instagram: @EllenMCochrane | TikTok: @AuthorTalk 

These are my anchor Hashtags:

  1. #FollowTheWater
  2. #MiddleGradeBooks
  3. #SurvivalStory

Newsletter: Occasional updates a few times a year

Thanks for your time, Ellen. Follow the Water comes out March 17!




GET A CLUE with Author Fleur Bradley

I’m delighted to welcome award-winning author Fleur Bradley to the blog. I first discovered Fleur when I devoured her middle grade mystery Midnight at the Barclay Hotel. With its clever clues and spectacular twist, it felt very Agatha Christie for kids. I became an instant fan. She followed with Daybreak on Raven Island, another page-turning mystery that kept me guessing right to the very end. Book cover of Midnight at The Barclay Hotel

Now Fleur is sharing her sleuthing secrets in Get a Clue (available April 7th) , a smart, practical guide for anyone ready to crack the code of writing MG and YA mysteries. Packed with clear, actionable advice, the book offers valuable insights for writers at every stage. Even with a couple of books under my belt, I had several “aha” moments that will serve me well moving forward.

Time to follow the clues to Fleur’s success . . .

Lisa: What inspired you to write a craft book specifically about MG and YA mysteries?

Fleur: I had been teaching mystery writing to kidlit authors for years, and kept looking for books to recommend my students. I realized there wasn’t anything out there that speaks specifically to writing MG or YA mysteries, so… I wrote it. It took me a while, but Get a Clue: How to Plot, Write, and Sell Your MG or YA Mystery is out in April. I really hope it helps writers and gets them excited about writing mysteries for kids or teens.

Lisa: You talk about “picking the crime”. What makes a crime appropriate for MG versus YA?

Get a Clue book cover.

Fleur: For MG, you have to remember that kids as young as seven or eight years old will read your book, so it’s best if the crime happens off-screen or isn’t too gory—like in a cozy mystery. For older MG or YA, anything goes, but you do want to think about your target reader. MG readers (and YA readers often, too) read a mystery to put the clues together and solve the puzzle—that’s the fun. So focus your story on that element of the mystery,
particularly for younger readers.

Lisa: You discuss building an outline using sequences. Can you explain that approach?

Fleur: When I got my start writing mysteries, I mainly wrote short stories. I struggled with keeping track of my plot and character ARC for the length of a novel. I learned that script writers often use sequences to build their story—eight to ten of them, forming the building blocks for a screenplay. You can use that same approach to plot or revise your novel; it makes an entire novel’s worth of words more manageable. One sequence builds upon the next, in a classic story arc. It’s very practical way to plot, but not so restrictive that it takes the fun out of drafting the story.

Lisa: How do you avoid info-dumping while still giving readers enough evidence?

Fleur: This sequence method I use makes it a lot easier: I simply make sure that there’s a clue (or usually more than one) in each sequence, so I’m playing fair with the reader. By the end of the story, you want to make sure that there’s only one conclusion to the mystery (the aha! whodunit). The reader should be able to go back and put together the puzzle—this is not easy to accomplish as writer. A lot of this careful revelation and pacing is done in revision. So don’t be too hard on yourself if it takes a while to get it right.

Lisa: Do you recommend outlining before drafting, or can discovery writers succeed in mystery?

Fleur: You can take either approach; sometimes people think that writing a mystery means you have to outline in detail, and that’s not the case at all. I use the sequence method to create a rough framework, but then I discover the story as I write. For my MG mystery Midnight at the Barclay Hotel, I had no idea who had murdered Mr. Barclay—I simply investigated the mystery along with the kids in the story (it was so much fun, y’all…). Once I finished writing the rough draft and uncovered whodunit, I simply revised and placed clues so it became the only natural conclusion.

On the flipside, you can outline in detail, which means there’s less editing to be done after… I just struggle with outlining, so I use a mixed approach of broad outlining and fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants writing.

Lisa: How do you plant clues without making them too obvious—or too invisible?

Book cover of Daybreak on Raven Island

Fleur: I use that sequence method of outlining to sprinkle clues like breadcrumbs, leading the reader to solve the mystery. It’s very much like a game. You can use beta readers to check if your clue revelation is too obvious or not obvious enough. This is definitely a balancing act—some readers will catch on quickly, while others might not ‘get’ the mystery until the reveal.

Lisa: What is the most common pitfall you see in mystery manuscripts?

Fleur: I often see writers start slow, or have character moments that go on a bit too long and drag the pace. Mysteries do need a certain amount of tension surrounding the clue hunt, and characters who are going places and doing stuff. You still want three-dimensional characters and depth, but those moments must be woven into plot in mysteries. So have your characters in conversation while they’re following a lead, rather than slowing the plot down.

Lisa: If a writer wants to start writing their mystery this week, what is their first step?

Fleur: Find your crime, character, and setting, and just test the waters with a scene or two. See if you like where it’s going enough to make a book out of it. You can then work on an outline, a character arc, your whodunit, etc. But remember that this is supposed to be fun. Mysteries really are the best.

Lightning Round:

Lisa: One must-read MG mystery?

Fleur: No fair, I can’t pick just one…! Adrianna Cuevas’s The Ghost of Rancho Espanto. Chris Grabenstein’s Lemoncello
series. Varian Johnson’s The Parker Inheritance. Hart & Souls by Lisa Schmid. I could go on for a while…

Lisa: Favorite mystery trope?

Fleur: The gathering of all suspects (in the library) while the detective does their spiel to reveal whodunit. Classic fun.

Lisa: One word that defines a great mystery.  

Fleur: Aha!

Lisa: What great answers! This has been informative and inspiring. Thank you so much for visiting From the Mixed-Up Files to chat about your new book. I truly appreciate your time and expertise. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have a most intriguing crime to plot—strictly on the page, of course. 

Pre-Order GET A CLUE

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About Fleur Bradley:

Fleur Bradley is the author of award-winning middle-grade mysteries Daybreak on Raven Island and Midnight at the Barclay Hotel (Viking/PRH), and the Double Vision trilogy (HarperCollins), as well as numerous non-fiction titles for the educational market. Recently, she compiled her
process for writing mysteries for tweens in Get a Clue: How to Plot, Write, and Sell Your MG or YA Mystery (2026).

Image of Fleur Bradley Fleur’s short stories have appeared in the MWA anthology Super-Puzzletastic Mysteries, SCBWI’s The Haunted States of America (a story representing Colorado). How to Teach Yourself to Swim, originally published in Dark Yonder, was chosen for The Best Mystery Stories of the Year 2024. Fleur’s work has been nominated for the Agatha and Anthony Award and has won the Colorado Book Award and Colorado Authors League Book Award, among others.

A reluctant reader herself, Fleur is also a literacy advocate and speaks at events on how to reach reluctant readers. Originally from the Netherlands, she now lives in a small cottage in the foothills of the Colorado Rockies where she fosters rescue animals.

For more information about Fleur visit fleurbradley.com.

Listen to an in-depth interview with Fleur on Writers With Wrinkles. 

Through the Eyes of Gen Z

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When we embark upon our journey as storytellers, we become part of the writing community at large. Each of us seeks to build relationships with not only our audiences, but also long to engage with other creatives across multiple mediums. As middle-grade authors, it is so important for us to stay connected with our readers and understand life through their eyes. People make sense of the world around them based on their own lived experiences, but if I have learned anything from my kids, it’s that the younger generation has just as much to offer us as we have to offer them.

That fact is the focus of this WNDMG post.

This month’s interview is with the co-founders of ProjectGenZWrites: Ruby Seidner and Boston Rohan. ProjectGenZWrites is a youth-led, nonprofit organization that offers free videos, tools, and resources for the next generation of creatives across multiple mediums. I had the pleasure of meeting these trailblazers several years ago when I volunteered to record a short video for their project. (To be honest, I was floored by the drive and dedication of these teens and could only regret not being half as motivated as they were in my youth.)

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Project GenZ Writes

Their organization philosophy states:

ProjectGenZWrites is a fast-growing, youth-led, non-profit database that educates the next generation of novelists, poets, journalists, and creative visionaries. We believe in the power of communal nurturing and building a world that is kinder, stronger, and healthier due to the plethora of creative people in it. Yet, we recognized a gap that stood in the way of getting to that place. Money and its connection to accessibility of vital education. This is why we partner with published authors, who generously give us their time to create videos sharing their incredible knowledge with our viewers. Videos are about anything within the writing process, from publishing to creative exhaustion. They are available on the website free of charge, aligning with our goal to bridge the creative education gap and give everyone a chance to pursue their creative passions.

 

I had to find out more about these young founders and their mission to bridge the creative education gap, in between going to high school and working on their own writing projects! What better diverse perspective to focus on during Women’s History Month. Without further delay, here we go!

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My first question: What inspired you to start this project?

RUBY: I grew up privileged enough to have access to whatever creative writing education I needed to further my craft and I knew there were people who were so much more talented than me who didn’t have that and I wanted to use the privilege I was given to do something about that.

Amazing goal. This makes me wonder, what is your primary motivation for continuing this project?

RUBY: The fact that we’re growing, that people are taking notice and PGW actually seems to be helping the next generation become more literate, creative and inspired.

Nothing feels better than knowing you’re making a difference. Now, does working from the educational side help you as a creative?

RUBY: I watch all the videos that are submitted and I learn something new about not just craft, but myself as a person, as I watch every single one.

Video thumbnails from PGW

Courtesy of ProjectGenZWrites

So true! Listening to the experiences of others definitely helps me grow and I hope I never stop learning from others. Along the lines of experiences, what have you learned the most from this process of launching an online database?

BOSTON: The biggest thing I’ve learned is the importance of communication. We’ve made a real effort to communicate with all of the authors on our platform and make sure their work is represented correctly on the database. That’s meant coordinating with them about their videos, making sure everything is presented the right way, and keeping an open line of communication so everyone feels good about how their work is being shared.

Model of Communication

 

As a communication professor, this lesson is music to my ears! I love how you’re both dealing with real world issues at such a young age yourself. Given this unique experience, what advice do you have for young creatives?

RUBY: When you figure out the internal reason for doing what you do, the need to base your worth as a creative on only external validation (will still be there) but shall start to dim significantly. This way you’ll be able to learn from rejection and keep following your dreams without letting today’s no’s stand in the way of tomorrow’s yes.

Sage advice from one young creative to another! Last question, what’s next on your schedule — creative or nonprofit wise?

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BOSTON: Right now I’m working with QC Family Tree, a nonprofit in the Charlotte area focused on uplifting the local community. We’re continuing to build out the website by adding more ways for people to get connected with events, opportunities, and different parts of the community. The goal is to make the platform a place that really reflects the importance of community and helps people find ways to get involved.

Incredible work, both of you! Let’s give these teen founders a giant round of applause. It’s hard enough just trying to grow up grounded in this crazy world we live in. But, I feel proud knowing that the next generation is more determined and resilient than we know.

If you’d like to participate this project and show your support, check out their website at projectgenzwrites.com. Thank you both so much for taking the time to connect. You’re racking up karmic brownies to ensure your creative and professional success in the future. I wish you both the best of luck!

Project GenZ Writes – Founder Bios

Ruby Seidner

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ProjectGenZWrites Founder

Ruby Seidner is a poet, advocate, and activist. She’s been published thirty-four times in various literary journals, won the Running Start Political Simulation in 2023, and participated in a Jubilee Media video that garnered over one million views. She’s been a finalist for Sonoma County Youth Poet Laureate in 2024, a special awardee for the Bay Area Creative Youth Awards in 2025, and a finalist for the Sonoma County Office of Education’s Five Minute Film Festival in 2023. She has graduated from online creative writing programs at the Kenyon Review and the Iowa Writers Workshop. She is the co-founder of the creative writing education database ProjectGenZWrites.

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Project GenZ Writes Founder

 

Boston Rohan

Self taught developer currently working at Elevation Church. code, listen to music, and watch anime.