Author Interviews

Author Interview: Joy McCullough (KESTREL TAKES FLIGHT)

It’s a pleasure to welcome back Joy McCullough to the blog, this time to share her heartfelt, hope-filled novel-in-verse, KESTREL TAKES FLIGHT. Like all of Joy’s books, this story draws readers in and takes them on a compelling journey. In KESTREL TAKES FLIGHT, that journey involves the wilds of Montana, a special breed of dog, and a girl learning to stand up for herself. Thank you to Joy for taking time to discuss her new book!

KESTREL TAKES FLIGHT - book cover

 

You’ve written in multiple genres, from picture books to middle grade to young adult to plays – and in both prose and novels-in-verse. KESTREL TAKES FLIGHT is told in a stunning verse form – how did that come to be? Was that the plan from its inception?

Yes, I always planned to write Kestrel in verse. While sometimes I’ll have false starts and begin a project in one format, only to realize it’s not the right one, I almost always know from the beginning through a gut instinct I can’t always explain. With Kestrel I think it was largely because I knew it was going to deal with emotional abuse. It’s a heavier topic than any of my previous middle grade books, but I have the experience from my young adult books to know that verse lends itself really well to difficult topics. The sparseness and white space give a reader plenty of space to breathe and process what they’re emotionally able to process without being overwhelmed by the trauma.

 

Some of Kestrel’s early thoughts about her mom were gutting to read – how Kestrel has been told she ruined her mom’s college and career plans and how their move is “…just the Mom Show” and Kestrel is “…just an extra.” How important was it to set up this early dynamic and how Kestrel sees her mom, and were there any challenges writing it?

I understood the family dynamic Kestrel was coming out of, having been raised primarily by her emotionally abusive grandfather. I knew he would have belittled her mother and undermined their relationship at every turn, in order to further isolate Kestrel and make her reliant on him. I can imagine it’s tough to read, but I can’t say it was tough to write—probably because I always knew Kestrel and her mom would grow together through the story. I was also really cognizant through the writing that while to Kestrel, her mom is an adult who’s letting her down, to me, Mom is also a survivor of Grandfather’s abuse. So in places where Kestrel feels like her mom is failing, I see her as coping the best she can.

 

Kestrel’s grandfather and his emotionally abusive treatment of Kestrel, her mom, and her aunt looms large throughout the book. Your beautiful author’s note explaining this type of abuse states, “…I know that sometimes, as a kid, you might feel like you don’t have any power to change your situation. That might be true – for now…” Did you have a specific reader in mind when you were writing these parts of the book, and what do you hope their takeaway is?  

I’m rarely thinking about the reader when I’m writing. I’m more focused on the character. But I was certainly thinking of the reader who finds themselves in Kestrel’s story when I wrote the author note. It was frustrating, because emotional abuse can be tough to quantify, and the resources are slim for kids who don’t have the option to choose to leave an emotionally abusive situation. But for the child in that situation who comes across this book, I hope they come away from Kestrel’s story with the understanding that abuse isn’t always physical, and that home and family don’t always have to come from blood. The horrible truth is that knowledge might not be able to help them get out of the situation in the short term. But perhaps it will be some small comfort and help them in the long run.

 

Kestrel’s letters to her grandpa show so much insight into their relationship and his treatment of her – and her growth in how she sees herself. Were those letters always part of the manuscript, and how did you approach writing them versus the rest of the book?

Yes, I think they were always there. The letters are in prose, but my approach to writing doesn’t really change with the format. It’s all just getting the story out without censoring myself, and then crafting the messy draft into something that serves the story I’m telling.

 

I found myself on the edge of my seat heading towards the book’s conclusion, as the emotional stakes and physical confrontation land at the same time and intensity – including Doc (who I love!) and Karelian dog protectors stepping up to help Kestrel. Was it a challenge to thread together these emotional and physical conflicts?

For as emotionally difficult as the book is, it was really quite a smooth and lovely, instinctual process. I’m always focused on the character’s journey first and foremost, and I think I just really understood Kestrel—not only the emotional abuse part, but also the journey from fearful of dogs to relying on them for significant emotional support. That has been my personal journey, too. It’s a quiet story by nature, but also it’s set against the backdrop of these dogs who are trained to ferociously scare bears away from populated areas, so I knew there eventually had to be some sort of confrontation. Otherwise I would have set up a Chekhov’s bear situation that never paid off.

 

Your book ends on a hopeful note for Kestrel and her mom – did you always have that in mind, and is that a consideration for you writing Middle Grade versus other genres? 

Absolutely. I feel strongly there’s very little we can’t approach in middle grade books, as long as we do it with care. My bottom line is that if there are kids experiencing something – discrimination, abuse, mental health issues, whatever – then they deserve to be able to find stories that reflect their experiences back to them, validate their feelings, and give them the hope of seeing a character survive. I think this is important both for the kids who experience these things, and for friends or family members who want to understand a kid who is experiencing these things.

Hope is, in my opinion, a crucial element of middle grade.

Photo of author Joy McCullough

About Joy:

Joy McCullough writes books and plays from her home in the Seattle area, where she lives with her husband and two children. She is the author of the middle grade novels Across the Pond, A Field Guide to Getting Lost, Not Starring Zadie Louise, Code Red, Kestrel Takes Flight, and Basil & Dahlia, as well as the middle grade series Team Awkward, and the picture books Harriet’s Ruffled Feathers, Champ and Major: First Dogs, and The Story of a Book. Her debut novel Blood Water Paint was longlisted for the National Book Award and was a William C. Morris Debut Award Finalist. Visit her at JoyMcCullough.com.

Solve Your Own Mystery with Gareth Jones

Today on the Mixed-Up Files, we have the pleasure of interviewing Gareth P. Jones, author of the recently published Solve Your Own Mystery series, which is cleverly illustrated by Louise Forshaw. Gareth is a multitalented writer, musician, TV producer, and performer, and I was thrilled to be able to go behind the scenes with these twisty mysteries that have more than one solution! These books definitely offer lots of twists and turns, and I couldn’t wait for the chance to hear more about how they came together.
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Thanks so much for joining us here at the Mixed-Up Files, Gareth! These books are so creative and such fun, giving readers so many reasons to go back to the story and see how things might turn out differently. What a great idea for a mystery! The obvious question I must ask first is do these mysteries take any inspiration from the classic Choose-Your-Own-Adventure books? If so, did you have a favorite?

Yes and yes. As a young reader, I loved books like Fighting Fantasy books and Choose Your Own Adventure, but my favorite was a series called Lone Wolf. I loved the fantasy world and the stories (written by Joe Dever), but it is the illustrations by Gary Chalk that will remain firmly lodged in my mind forevermore.

Unlike the Choose-Your-Own-Adventure series, one of the best features of the Solve Your Own Mystery books is that there are no wrong answers, just more adventures and investigations to be had. Can you share with us a little of how you worked on the structure of these books, making sure the storylines overlapped and diverged at the right spots? It seems like a feat to arrange all these parts in such satisfying ways. And are you more of a plotter or a pantser when it comes to working with characters and twisty mysteries like these?

I plot as I write, which is another way of saying that I make up stories as I go along. With a series like this, it would have made more sense to work out a structure and go in with a plan, but I didn’t do any of that. I just started writing. Then, when I got to the end of each chapter, I worked out what two paths lay ahead then wrote them. I did map out what was happening as I went along so I could work out which chapters 

you had to hit. I have no idea if the story is satisfying for all readers, but I tried to make sure that even if there are things you miss, you have the chance to go back and find out more. I went completely mad writing these books and I was very grateful to my editors for helping me to untangle the almighty mess I had created for myself. I loved it though. More than ever before, it felt like I had to climb inside the story, because the story had so many possibilities—rather than one linear course.

Solve Your Own Mystery: The Time Thief cover

Haventry is a fascinating place to explore, and its residents are equally fun to meet. Do you have characters that are particularly fun for you to write? (Watson always made me smile, and I especially enjoyed Bernard the time-bending lobster!)

Oh, I love Watson too. He wasn’t in the first draft of the book. I created him as a solution to a problem. In that earlier version, I realized you’d park your car one place and then might suddenly find it somewhere else. I needed a car that was more independently minded than most. That’s when I hit the idea of a car that used to be a dog. Those are always my favourite moments, when I can solve a problem with solution that makes the whole thing better. There’s another instance of this in Book 4 with Dr. Heckyll and Mr. Jibe, but you’ll have to wait to meet him/them. I loved the witches too, so they popped up in all of the books.

The second person perspective is used perfectly in these two mysteries—it’s amazing how much “you” can do without actually saying a word.

Yes, I decided that I didn’t want to put words into the reader’s mouth and then I had to stick with this. I have been working on a fresh take on this idea recently (called The Oddjob Murder Club), in which I have allowed you the reader to speak, but with Solve Your Own Mystery, I decided to have fun with the idea that you didn’t speak. So there are several moments when you’re about to speak and someone interrupts you. Also, if you read the whole series you will discover that YOU undergo changes as you make your way through this world. Just like any good main character, your journey changes you.

Louise Forshaw’s illustrations add such fabulous dimension to these tales. Did you get to collaborate on what Haventry and the characters would look like?

I love them too. And yes, we did, although in truth I’m not really a visual writer. I don’t see pictures when I write. I hear voices. Mostly, I just told Louise how much I loved her pictures. She has quite a gothic sensibility so she instantly got it.

Writing is just one of your many talents! How do you see all your various gifts and interests playing into your writing?

Solve Your Own Mystery: The Monster MakerI don’t know. It’s all creativity, isn’t it. I spend most of my time making stuff up, but annoyingly, I do also have to ensure my creative efforts occasionally make money. This year, I’m putting more of an emphasis on performance. I’m taking my Ministry of Mini Musicals on a tour of libraries and a short run at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, putting on one-man musicals based on my picture books, but it’s a two-way street and sometimes the shows inspire the books. One of the inspirations behind the Solve Your Own series was a show called Mystery Makers, in which the audience improvises a brand-new mystery. I love doing that show and I wondered if there was a way of writing books that felt as anarchic and interactive—and that’s what I did.

Can we expect more mysteries on the Shady Side with Klaus?

Yes, there are two more books coming your way: The Missing Magic and The Transylvanian Express. After that, who knows? I have no plans for more, but I’d drop everything and start writing another if a publisher asked me.

If you could give writers any advice, what would it be?

Don’t listen to writing advice. Don’t worry about what other people are doing. The real magic of writing is the moment of creation. After that, it’s all marketing, so enjoy creating something from nothing and try not to worry about anything else.

Thank you for your time and for these great books, Gareth.

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The Time Thief and The Monster Maker are both out now, so grab a copy and start solving!

Mixed-Up Member Spotlight: Mike Hays

All About Mike Hays

From the Mixed-Up Files is a place to celebrate middle grade books—new books, collections of books on a particular theme, STEM books—as well as a place to interview authors. Now I get to celebrate a fellow MUF blogger: Mike Hays, who has been a part of the team for more than eleven years.

Hi Mike! It’s nice to finally meet you and get you “in front of the camera” for a change. First, tell us about your non-writing life.
My life firmly orbits around my family. Faith, family, food, and an insatiable curiosity for the world is probably the dime store philosophical motto for my life. The writing and creating parts are deeply rooted in all those things.

What do you do for fun?
Much to the chagrin of people I live with, I try to do everything for fun. Of course, there are times when one has to buckle down, pinch your nose, and get the dog poo of life cleaned up. But, even then, I try to infuse those times with an element of a fun challenge. The things I do for fun are all over the board; playing with my grandkids, gardening, biking, drawing, games of any sort, and, most of all, reading.

I see you are a molecular microbiologist by day. Fill us in on what that entails.
Unfortunately, being a molecular microbiologist is not as exciting or as sexy as it sounds. It’s work and it’s failure. The general aim of our research laboratory within a veterinary medical college is to use molecular biology and gene editing to make viral and bacterial pathogens less dangerous. We also focus on using isolated aspects of those pathogens and/or their genes as treatments for other diseases and conditions, i.e. knocking down the body’s inflammation response in autoimmune disease. It’s a bugs to drugs approach.


How does your day job impact your writing?
I get to approach every day with a discovery mindset. We are using what scientists have previously done to forge new ground in our field. Constantly interested. Constantly investigative. I like doing what I do because it’s a hands-on job that requires thought and analysis every dang day. It’s the Fail Cycle in daily action ⇒ Try. Fail. Analyze. Problem solve, Try again. Repeat. (Sound familiar, creators in the crowd? The Fail Cycle is how we create.)

Were you always interested in being a writer? Did you like to write as a child?
No! And No! I had trouble reading and writing as a child. It was a struggle. I’m sure I have some learning issue that was beyond the capacity of a mid-1970’s lower middle class Catholic grade school. The key was that my lower middle class Catholic grade school had people who cared and refused to allow me to slip through the cracks. I made a breakthrough in sixth grade reading Jack London’s To Build a Fire on mimeographed sheets of paper while tucked deep in a storeroom where a volunteer provided kids extra help. It changed everything! It opened the doors for my creative brain that were previously locked. The fire was lit. One of the things I preach to all who will listen is: Reading is a Superpower!

If you could interview any middle grade author (past or present), who would it be and why?
This is an impossible question to fully answer, so here is my shortened version of a list that could encompass this entire interview post. I spared you my long-winded why and just include their almost perfect book(s) I’d talk to the author about and beg to know how they did performed their perfect alchemy.
Terry Prachett (The Tiffany Aching series)
Louis Sachar (Holes)
Kelly Barnhill (The Girl Who Drank the Moon)
Neil Gaiman (Coraline/The Graveyard Book)
Jennifer L. Holm (The Fourteenth Goldfish)
Erin Entrada Kelly (We Dream of Space)
Okay for Now (Gary D. Schmidt)
Ray Bradbury (Something Wicked This Way Comes, Dandelion Wine)
Michael Chabon (Summerland)
Jonathan Stroud (The Lockwood & Co. series)

About His Books

Tell us about the types of books/short stories you write. Would you say there’s a common thread in them?
The common thread at the core in everything I write or create is probably similar to a great number of creators. I write for me. In particular, I write stuff the young me would have appreciated. I wrote a MUF post called Creative Braining that kind of touches on how this process works on a neuroprocessing level.

What is your favorite book/short story you wrote?
Ha! Isn’t this like asking me to pick a favorite child? I think the honest answer is the favorite piece is the one I’m working on. That love and passion helps drive through that mucky slog every piece must trudge through.

I know you are a coach—what sports do you coach? How has your love of sports and/or coaching impacted your books?
I was a Rule 10 (non-certified staff) high school football, baseball, and strength & conditioning coach. Now, I volunteer with youth sports and love to work with kids on the fundamentals of hitting a baseball.
A love of sports, and participation as a player and coach, has had a huge impact on my creative work. First, it instilled in me the value of practice in developing technical ability and skill. Second, it taught me the value of work ethic and discipline. Show up and do the work because hard work is the magic. Finally, I learned to compete. In creativity, this competition is 100% a competition against my own self to finish a project to the very best of my ability at that particular time and place.

What are you working on now?
Although not recommended to working fast or keeping one’s mental faculties completely in order, I work on multiple projects at a time. I have this memory of Ray Bradbury from an old TV interview talking about how he works three or four projects simultaneously. If he got stuck on one, he rolled his office chair to the next typewriter and got to work on that one. My current problem is limiting my work to three or four projects and not seven. 😀
I’m revising and querying several MG manuscripts, working on an informative fiction graphic novel about the Sputnik I launch, drafting and outlining a new MG fiction project, and making a picture book dummy. Even though it seems to be tough times in the MG universe, we must keep on keeping on. Plus, baby steps are still steps moving forward, right?

Mike’s Roles for MUF

How long have you been writing for From the Mixed-Up Files…of Middle Grade Authors?
In a move the MUF leadership probably wishes they could reconsider, I was accepted to be a part of the team in November of 2014. (Wait! There’s no way is can be that long ago. It seems like just yesterday.)

What hats do you wear for MUF?
I do several regular MUF posts per year and those almost exclusively lean toward creativity and how we do what we do. I’m also the most unreliable member of the MUF Author Interview team and am working to rectify my lack of participation on that important front. As one of the original STEM Tuesday team members, I am part of the STEM Tuesday Week Three Writing Tips & Resources team and helped lay the groundwork for the post’s format, including the O.O.L.F. Files component.
I am the class clown of the STEM Tuesday family and, for some reason, Jennifer Swanson and the others let me get away with it. I am forever grateful they allow me to be my stupid-funny self in the oft-serious arena of STEM.

What are your favorite types of posts to do and why?
At a basic level, I like the posts that allow me to explore the creative process. My most challenging post assignment is having the honor and the responsibility to write the annual STEM Tuesday New Year’s Post.

You write posts for STEM Tuesday. What topics do you like to cover?
I love the challenge of being “forced” into learning something new in order to properly address the monthly STEM Tuesday theme. When one learns more creating the piece than one was able to share in the post, it’s a win for a nerdy boy like me.

What was your favorite post you wrote and why?
Another hard question! On this question, though, there is one that stands out above the rest. The STEM Tuesday New Year’s Post at the end of December 2020. Yes, that 2020! You know, global pandemic, science being attacked from multiple fronts, etc. Truth bomb here, I was so nervous and almost backed out of posting this one for a generic “Happy New Year from the STEM Tuesday Team!” post. I was pulling out the stupid-funny ridiculousness stops and going so far off the standard STEM Tuesday rails that I was worried about embarrassing the whole STEM Tuesday team. In the 11th hour, Jennifer Swanson was consulted and she said to run with it. Honestly, I think she was just desperate to get something posted on New Year’s Eve. It even had to run in two parts. Here are the links:

Part One: A Great Conjunction
Part Two: Partie Deux (Translation…Part Doo.)

For Teachers

Are you doing school visits related to your books?
I am available for free virtual school visits, tailored to all ages, to talk writing, creating, science, and a grab bag of other things that are on the mind of young people. Interested teachers can send a message via my socials or on my website and we can get something scheduled.

How can we learn more about you?
My author website is: https://mikehaysbooks.com/
My blog site (over 500 posts since 2009!) on life, coaching, sports, etc. is: https://coachhays.com/
Instagram: @MikeHays64
Bluesky: @mikehays64.bsky.social
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/coachhays

Thanks for your time, Mike.

Thank you! I love what the MUF family does on a daily basis and the spotlight it shines on MG space. I’m forever proud and thankful to be a part of this spectacular group.