Author Interviews

Author Interview: Daphne Benedis-Grab (I KNOW YOU STARTED IT)

Book cover for I KNOW YOU STARTED IT by Daphne Benedis-Grab

Daphne Benedis-Grab has thrilled audiences with her Secrets and Lies series, and she’s back with a fourth installment: I KNOW YOU STARTED IT. With a crackling mystery and captivating characters, the book is a firestorm of suspense and intrigue. Daphne was kind enough to join the blog to talk about her writing process, her inspirations, and the power of words. 

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

From the very first chapter, I felt like I was in such good hands when it came to the central mystery of the book. How important is that opening line or that chapter to you when you’re writing? 

That is a really good question. I put a lot of thought into where we’re starting – what’s going to be that inciting incident that kicks things off. So we start at a place where there’s room to get to know the characters. But we’re in it. We are not wasting a second. We are not leading up to it. It’s there. It’s starting. 

The reader is right there from that beginning point –  you are part of it. I think particularly in a mystery or a thriller, you’re getting on a ride and it’s going fast. 

How important is it for you as the writer to know the ending of the book as you’re starting that opening? 

For me (and I know everybody writes differently) it’s essential. 

I need to know where I’m going. I always write from an outline, and hammering out an outline is one of the hardest parts of writing for me  – because I can come up with a lot of really fun inciting incidents and ideas, but does it have legs to sustain interest? 

Is there going to be room for a twist or two in there? And is it going to stick the landing? Is it going to be something that I can see an ending all the way through that is going to be extremely satisfying for readers? 

And if I can’t, if I don’t know what the ending is – I don’t know where I’m going with it.

So, everything needs to lead to that twist – and then to the final reveal. 

This book is told through multiple perspectives, and you did an incredible job getting into the psyche of each of those characters. Did you always plan to tell this story that way? 

Yes, so all of the Secrets and Lies books have three to four narrators, and I am inspired by the books that I have read with multiple characters. I used to do just one character narrating – either 1st or 3rd person. But when I read a couple of really well-narrated books with a number of different narrators, I understood this keeps the reader guessing – because none of us know what the full story is, right? 

In any given situation, everyone is going to have a different perspective, and that’s going to be based on who we are and how we perceive things and how our brains work and our experiences in the world.

And so, to tell a story in a book really well, I feel like you need those multiple characters who are going to give this different perspective and this different take on the bigger situation.

The reader then has a fuller picture than they otherwise might if it’s just that one person. 

Do you have an exercise or anything you do to get into that mindset more fully when you’re moving from character to character? 

That’s a really fun question. So one thing is that when I make the outline, I’m very conscious of who’s narrating what. And sometimes I’ll come to something and I’ll be like –  wait a minute – another person discovered this, and then I have to restructure things. But by the time I’m sitting down and writing, it’s organic who I’m going to be going to next. 

And if it doesn’t feel right, then that’s not the problem. That’s telling me that this probably isn’t the character to narrate this.

Another thing is that when I write – because I have the outline – I’m never sitting down to write a book. I’m sitting down to write a scene. And when I know what that scene is and who that narrator is, it makes it a lot easier to dive in.

That said, if I’m sitting and I’ve come to a chapter break and I’m moving into the next one, I definitely need a break. I need to do a little reset, where I dive into the next character so it’s their voice. 

I love how you break the book into the five stages of the fire, from kindling through incineration. Is that how you structure the outline too? Or does that come along later in the process? 

100%, yes. And I love devices like that. I love a book written in letters or written with texts or there’s a little something at the top of the chapter that gives you some insights to something else. That’s one of my favorite things. And all of these books, I’ve tried to have something like that. 

I looked up the stages of a fire, and I was like – oh, this is perfect. Many moons ago, I read Robert McKee’s books, and now each act has to get built in intensity – and that’s perfect for a fire, right?

Absolutely! Through all of the twists and the turns of the book (which there are many, and they’re wonderful and surprising!), there are important ideas that come through as well. Seeing people as they truly are, standing up for one another and oneself, and being aware of online bullying. 

Did those themes start from the beginning, or did they find you as you’re writing the story? 

That’s a really interesting question. They tend to find me as I’m writing.

But I’m very aware of the things that are important to me to lift up when I write. Part of that comes from parenting children and from being a school librarian. And the things that I see – [that] my students grapple with, and in the fears that they have and how scary it is to speak up – and how lonely you feel when you’re bullied and how that’s part of it. 

A theme that I come to again and again in my writing, but also my life is that – evil grows in darkness, right? It’s hidden when it’s secret, when we hold it, and there isn’t the light of many people seeing it.

That’s when it grows. 

How do we shine that light? How do we bring it into those same corners and lift things up?

Another thing that’s always really important to me is understanding that everybody has a story and that we might present in a certain way. And you don’t understand where someone’s coming from you.
You don’t know them. You can think that you do. You can judge on a few features. 

But everybody has a story and everyone has a perspective. And we’re missing out in life if we’re not getting a little bit more of that. 

There’s a line at the end of the book where Liam says, “Words can be dangerous.” How do you feel about that line as an author and a librarian and someone who’s concerned about young people? 

Of course, the first place my brain goes to is social media, right? Where words live forever. Where you always have a digital footprint. Where the things that you can say without thought can cause such incredible damage to another person – to a situation where you can get pushed to do something that you just would never do if you stop to think. 

I think words have power in that way, but words also have the most important and the most beautiful power because they can express us and they can express our stories.

And when you have language to name your feelings and name what you’re thinking and name who you are – that’s how you exist and own space in the world.

That’s so beautiful and important. Thank you!

 

Author photo of Daphne Benedis-Grab


Daphne Benedis-Grab is the award winning author of the Secrets and Lies Novels, companion middle grade books that include I Know Your Secret, I Know You’re Lying and I Will Find You, as well as the young adult book The Girl in the Wall. Her middle grade book The Angel Tree was made into a Hallmark Original movie. She earned her MFA from The New School and is the librarian at Warder Elementary School in Arvada, Colorado. She lives in Boulder, Colorado with her husband, two college student kiddos and cats Mishka and Blue.

More at daphnebg.com

Author Interview: Royden Lepp (JURASSIC JEFF)

We love a good series over here at the Mixed Up Files, and author/illustrator Royden Lepp is keeping

‘em coming with his new book, Jurassic Jeff: Phone Home (Jurassic Jeff Book 3). Royden has written and published a variety of children’s books and other comics, and his first series RUST was called “one of the best all-ages stories to be crafted in the past decade”. Jurassic Jeff is Royden’s first comedy series, and I got a chance to ask him a few questions about the latest installment:

Chris: The Jurassic Jeff books are so fun (and definitely a big hit with my kids!). Did you know this was going to be a series when you got started with the first story?

Royden: I did! I pitched a series initially and was always planning to tell multiple stories around these fun characters. It was my first attempt at episodic storytelling, so it was a bit of a challenge.

Chris: And episodic storytelling definitely provides more opportunity for character development. Like in this book, where we learn a little more about Jeff’s home planet and history. You manage to avoid the dreaded “info dump”, but was that hard to do?

Royden: Somehow it wasn’t. Sometimes I don’t think I’m very good at world-building. I’ve always been really afraid of the world-building hole that writers can fall into, so I avoid it like the plague. Unfortunately that often leaves me not knowing a lot about the world I’m writing about so I have to stop and consider the context.

Chris: That makes sense. And speaking of context,  I enjoyed all the vintage sci-fi movie references in this one. Do you make these books with grown-ups in mind, too?

Royden: First and foremost, I’m always writing for myself. It has to make me laugh first, and then I consider my audience. So for some of the deep sci-fi references I consulted my son, who was 11 at the time that I wrote this volume. He knew a couple of the references but not all of them, and he thought the scenes were funny in their own context, so I just went for it.

Chris: Nice! And your books always have a lot of physical action, too. Is there a different approach to writing and illustrating when you want scenes to have a lot of movement?

Royden: There is! The writing involves thumbnailing the whole book more than it does writing all the

text. Every page has to flow into the next, and the jokes have to keep popping. I don’t want Jurassic Jeff to just be talking heads—I want it to have a lot of energy.

Chris: You poke some fun at AI in your book, and the last time we talked, I asked you about the role of AI in writing and illustrating. Has your opinion evolved at all in the last year or so?

Royden: Oh, it’s evolving daily, I think. I’ve done a lot of experimentation with AI in my art this year, and I’ll admit that a lot of it has been really fun. It creates amazing new ways to look at your creation. HOWEVER, I have yet to use AI in my books or writing. It simply doesn’t apply yet. I use it AROUND my characters and IP, but I don’t use it to make anything yet. I bet that will change in a year, but who knows? Story is the goal. Whatever tool helps me tell the stories I want to tell, I will use it.

Chris: That makes sense and sounds like a grounded approach. In your author bio, you mention doing video calls with art classes, which sounds really cool! Have you had opportunities to engage with the middle-grade audience as a result of the Jurassic Jeff series?

Royden: Oh yes, I’ve had many visits with schools and students over the last few years. It’s been a blast, and I hope there are more to come this year. (There are! I already know!)

Chris: Very cool! Okay, Royden, since you’re a repeat guest on the blog, you get the super bonus lightning round questions:

 

Music or silence while working?

R: Music. A thousand times over.

 

Best late-night snack?

R: Life cereal

 

Favorite location to visit?

R: Ucluelet, BC on Vancouver Island

 

Hardest part of a book to write?

R: That first blank page. Standing at the bottom of a mountain you intend to climb. That first step of so many.

 

Best writing advice you’ve ever gotten?

R: Don’t copy anyone. You have your own unique voice—use it.

 

Thanks again to Royden for taking some time to chat with us! You can find Jurassic Jeff: Phone Home everywhere on April 21, 2026.

 

See you soon, friends!

Author Spotlight: Allan Wolf

In today’s Author Spotlight, Jo Hackl chats with award-winning author Allan Wolf about his novel, Junius Leak and the Spiraling Vortex of Doom. Allan Wolf is the author of picture books, poetry, and young adult novels. Booklist has named his historical verse novel, The Watch That Ends the Night, one of  “The 50 Best Young Adult Books of All Time.” Allan is also the author of the nonfiction graphic novel The Vanishing of Lake Peigneur, illustrated by Jose Pimienta; and the poetry collection The Gift of the Broken Teacup, illustrated by Jade Orlando. His books celebrate his love of research, history, science, and poetry. He is also a skilled and seasoned performer of over 30 years. Allan Wolf’s dynamic author talks and poetry presentations for all ages are meaningful, educational and unforgettable. Florida Reading Quarterly calls Wolf “the gold standard of performing poetry.” He is a two-time winner of the North Carolina Young Adult Book Award, and a recipient of the Bank Street College Claudia Lewis Award for Poetry. Allan lives in Roanoke, Virginia, with his wife, his sister, and a dog named Mo. Learn more at www.allanwolf.com.

All about the book:

When thirteen-year-old Junius Leak—expert on waterbodies and creator of the encyclopedic Amazing Waterbodies of the World—steps foot on Uncle Spot’s rickety dock on Lake Peigneur, the truth assails him: he may love waterbodies, but that doesn’t mean they love him back. The latest in a long line of Junius Leaks, he’s the first to be doomed to ten days of awkwardness and boredom on a houseboat with a relative he doesn’t know while his parents “work on” their marriage. Delcambre, Louisiana, where Junius was born, is awash with unwelcome surprises.

He determines to learn why his mom left town when he was a baby—and to conquer his fear of water at the same time. But the lake has other plans for him, plans tied to a hundred-year-old family feud and a swashbuckling mystery. When disaster strikes, Junius must dive deep within to emerge an unlikely hero.

Alternating viewpoints spin the perceptions of a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP) — and the wry voice of a lake with a long memory—into an inventive tale of sunken treasure and buried secrets anchored by a breathtaking true event.

The Background of Junius Leak:

JH: The title alone is wonderfully dramatic. Can you tell us about the real-life events that inspired Junius Leak and the Spiraling Vortex of Doom?

AW: It was a Thursday, November 20th, 1980. Texaco had set up a 130-foot-tall drilling derrick on a 15-foot-tall platform in the middle of Lake Peigneur, a 1200-acre shallow freshwater lake in southern Louisiana. Texaco was exploring for the oil that gathers in pockets around the massive salt dome beneath the lake. When the derrick’s 14-inch drill bit accidentally pierced a massive salt mine that had been excavated beneath the lake, water began to drain into the mine, eventually opening up into a vortex, a quarter-mile wide, effectively draining the lake’s 3.5 billion gallons of water like a big bathtub. The ever-widening sinkhole, created a 150-foot waterfall made up of water from the Delcambre Canal that had begun to flow in reverse, filling the lake back in with salt-water from the Gulf of Mexico, nine miles away. Within four hours the hole had devoured a tugboat, eleven large salt barges, two working derricks, and about 58 acres of a beautiful botanical garden located near the lake’s shore. Amazingly, after another 48 hours, Lake Peigneur filled back in, transforming from a 10-foot deep freshwater lake into a salt-water lake with a 250-foot-deep crater in the middle of it. Even with 55 miners working beneath the lake that day, not a single human life was lost.

JH: That disaster served as inspiration for this story in your graphic novel, The Vanishing of Lake Peigneur illustrated by Jose Pimienta (You can find the interview with Allan and Jose here). How did you go about creating the fictional character of Junius Leak to explore this world?

AW:  The historical fiction story, Junius Leak and the Spiraling Vortex of Doom, grew out of the same research I was doing for my graphic nonfiction account, The Vanishing of Lake Peigneur. You might say that the two books were like paternal twins, developing separately while sharing the same womb. I began to see so many metaphors (swirling, spiraling, loss, sudden rejuvenation, etc.) emerging from the historical facts that a fictional story jumped out at me unbidden. I was already keen to try my hand at middle-grade fiction, so twelve-year-old Junius Leak sprung out of me. I had been exploring the world of Lake Peigneur as an adult for so long, it made sense to create my own 12-year-old doppelganger, Junius Leak to experience that world with me.

JH: You wrote in your author’s note that there is a lot of Allan Wolf in Junius. To which parts of Junius do you most relate?

AW:  As a child I was profoundly lonely and, even when I started making friends, I found these relationships to be exhausting and awkward. I now know that I suffered from some pretty debilitating anxiety, but back then no one knew what anxiety was. Back in 60’s and 70’s it was usually just called cowardice. And that’s how I always felt, like a coward pretending to be a normal person. I had escapes that helped me feel at ease: athletics, reading, skateboarding, and (especially) writing on my bedroom walls. Junius shares a lot of my own quirks, and he uses a lot of my own coping mechanisms.

JH: Did Junius surprise you at any point while you were writing the book?

AW:  Yes. I think any really good character (when given enough freedom) will surprise the author. With Junius I had to write a good bit to arrive at that spot in which he took on an intrinsically motivated life of his own. Picture a grown-up helping a kid to ride a bike. The grown-up runs alongside, one hand on the handlebars, one hand on the child’s back. The kid has a nervous but determined look on his face. Gradually the adult lets go and steps away, leaving the kid to zoom off all alone, usually shouting out, “I’m doing it!”

That’s pretty much the relationship between author and character. The author can create the bicycle, and the street, and even the character. But there comes a point in any character’s development when that character begins to make his or her own choices. I was most surprised at how Junius Leak, the character, had sort of a snarky sarcastic streak about him. As a kid who is arguably “on the spectrum,” he has trouble interpreting and projecting social cues. And yet he seems to understand sarcasm which requires a pretty sophisticated sense of one’s self in the world.  And that was perhaps the greatest surprise of all. When all is said and done, Junius Leak has an intrinsic sense of himself, something that I struggled with as a kid.

JH: If you could drop yourself into one scene from the book, which would you choose—and why?

AW:  There is a climactic scene toward the end of the story when something pretty miraculous comes springing up from the depths of the lake. That’s the scene I’d choose, and maybe a few other moments toward the end. I can’t say specifics without spoilers, but I can say that I love scenes when some long-forgotten detail comes back to fill in the last missing piece of a puzzle. Or the missing piece might have been there under your nose all the time. Point is, you’ve been taking this detail (an event or a character maybe) for granted; you’ve dismissed it as only a bit actor. I love these moments because they fill in the gaps emotionally. I love it when the puzzle pieces fall together. I find the emerging sense of order to be very soothing.

Writing for Middle Grade Readers

JH: What drew you to write for middle-grade readers?

AW:  Of all my novels, this is the first directed specifically at middle-grade readers. My books are typically marketed for YA and teens. So Junius Leak and the Spiraling Vortex of Doom, is “my take” on a middle-grade novel. The story unfolds more slowly, perhaps, than a typical middle grade plot. That’s just how I write right now. It’s something that serves me. I’m working out something stylistically. Hopefully with each progressive book, I will get better and better at it. As a professional writer of books for youth, I was drawn to middle grade because I’d never written one, and because middle grade seems the most steadfast place to be right now, in the constantly changing world of publishing.

JH: Middle-grade books often balance humor, adventure, and emotional depth. How did you approach that balance while writing this story?

AW:  When it comes to telling a story, my motto is “You can’t have ha, ha without a little ah ha!.” There’s nothing wrong with a good therapeutic chuckle. I love laughter, as long as it helps to further the story. But the most enduring humor has humanity at its core. So, I’d rather go for the kind of laugh that makes you cry, if that makes sense. Of course, you have to keep readers (young and old) moving forward in a plot-driven direction, but it is those emotional interjections that resonate in readers’ imaginations long after reading the final page.

JH: Were there any books that you loved growing up that influenced your storytelling?

AW:  A few picture books that have stuck with me: Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel; Ferdinand the Bull; Harry the Dirty Dog. Chapter books: Winnie the Pooh; Dr. Doolittle, Charlotte’s Web, James and the Giant Peach. And later, the novels of Paul Zindel. Much of my voice, though, comes from later exposure to Karen Hesse, Eloise Greenfield, Karla Kuskin, and especially Paul Fleischman. My own book, Junius Leak, has been compared to Holes by Luis Sacar, and I can see why. That book had a profound impact on me.

Writing Craft

JH: Did this book begin with a character, a plot idea, or your irresistible title?

AW:  As often as not, my book ideas begin with a startling and memorable image. Maybe because I was raised on movies and comic books. The image of the lake’s face swirling like a bathtub, and drawing in trees, boats, houses, and shoreline; that’s what I started with. Or the image of a solitary chimney sticking up out of the water in the middle of a lake; that’s what I start with. Then I might develop plot and character with that main controlling image in mind.

As for the book’s title, I worked with an actor named Junius Leek back in the 1990’s and vowed then to someday use his name as a character in a book. This watery book turned out to be the moment. As for the spiraling part of the title: again, that was inspired by image, and the overambitious vortex of doom is more of an ohmage to melodramatics of youth. It also sounds a bit “piratey,” so winner-winner-chicken-dinner. I do admit, that once I settled on the title, the book began to really take shape. A good title can do that . . . just make everything gel.

JH: Were there any scenes that were especially fun—or especially difficult—to write?

AW:  There is a scene in which Junius reunites with his mother and they have a chat. Originally, I left this scene out. In fact, Junius’ mom never even appeared in the book in real-time. But my editor, Katie Cunningham, thought the mother needed a scene near the end of the story. When I sat down to write it, only then did I realize why I hadn’t written it in the first place. I was dreading where I had to go as a writer. I had to essentially sit down with my own mother (who had recently passed away). That was hard. But worth it.

Jo: How long did it take from the first spark of the idea to the finished manuscript?

AW:  The spark came in 2007 when I first saw the lone chimney rising up out of Lake Peigneur. It was in 2019 when I sold the idea as a two-book deal to Elizabeth Bicknell at Candlewick Press. I researched documents and did in-person interviews for years. The initial writing itself took perhaps two years. I’m always working on more than one thing at a time. So, its often hard to tell what hours are spent on what book.

Jo: What was the biggest revision you made to the story during the editing process?

AW:  Not sure if this is really the “biggest” revision, but it was certainly a memorable edit.  I had named the town sheriff in my book after a real-life sheriff who had played a minor role in the Texaco-Lake Peigneur disaster. My idea was to use his name as a sort of ohmage. Much later I found out this particular sheriff had been a divisive person both personally and professionally. Rather than play into the controversy, I changed the sheriff’s name to Connor Murphy—the name of a little kid who lived down the street from me in Asheville, NC.

JH: What advice would you give to writers trying to write humor for middle-grade readers?

AW:  I would re-read my comments about humor above. Humor without humanity is hollow. Also, I would avoid making a joke at someone’s expense. It is mean and petty. If someone deserves to be put in their place, allow it to happen in the plot without your main protagonist simply acting out of a need for revenge. And of course, you should read a lot, lot, lot of funny books. I recommend Dead End in Norvelt by Jack Gantos.

What’s Next

JH: What projects are you currently working on?

AW:  I have a collection of Christmas poems in the works from Candlewick Press. And I’m writing a memoir (on spec) about how I began writing on my bedroom walls, as a 13 year old . . . fifty years ago!

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Lightning Round!

Favorite place to write:
My desk.

Plotter or pantser?
I pants within a plot.

 If you were not a writer, what might you do for a living?
Mortician. Drummer in a rock band.

Coffee, tea, or some other beverage while writing:
Mostly coffee.

Your favorite writing snacks:

Cheez-its and goldfish.

Favorite fictional hero:

Underdog.

Favorite fictional villain:

Boss Hogg.

Jo: Thanks for chatting with us Allan!