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This Interview Stinks! (In a Good Way) Interview with Joan Holub, Author of Fart Boy and Reeky Dog

Today I’m interviewing Joan Holub, author of Fart Boy and Reeky Dog. This graphic novel for 7-10 year olds introduces readers to a smelly superhero and his dog sidekick as they fight to defeat an evil alien scientist plotting world domination!

I’m going to be honest. This blog is posting a few days later than I planned. Why? Because the moment Fart Boy and Reeky Dog arrived in the mail, my 8 year old snatched it out of my hands. He proceeded to read it three times in a row. It was his constant companion on the couch, in the car, and on the bus for several days. He kept giggling and showing me parts he found particularly hilarious. I believe his enthusiasm is the best testimonial for this action-packed, fart-powered adventure! But just in case you need a bit more persuading, here are a few additional reviews that are anything but stinky:

“My nine-year-old son loved this book. He kept stopping to tell me about the book, which is rare for him, and laughed the whole time. The graphics are well done and colorful.” — Ashley P, Reviewer (5 stars)

“My favorite part, though, was when the hokey pokey song was used to show how the beans made their way through his body to make extra strong farts. This book is lively, with fantastic, fun, bright pictures. Even the villain is fun and over the top.”
— Lisa D, Reviewer (5 stars)

And now, let ‘er rip!

Emily Starr: You have written more than 200 books for kids, but this is your first graphic novel! How was your writing process both similar and different for this format?

Joan Holub: Great question! Probably the most unique difference is that I drew sketches for the entire graphic novel even though I had no intention of illustrating the final book. (Can you say over-achiever?) I draw sketches for all of my picture books to better understand them. Therefore, it didn’t feel unusual to do it for my graphic novel. However at 140 pages, Fart Boy and Reeky Dog required a lot of drawing! The sketches helped me decide which words to keep and which to leave out. I also think they helped my editor understand my book right away when I submitted it. She could literally see the action!

Early Layout Sketches

Emily Starr: Wow! That sounds like a very involved, yet helpful process. So how much of the layout and illustrations did you ultimately direct (e.g., how many panels are on a page, what is shown in each image)? If you were very involved, what process did you use to figure out how each page should be divided? The book has an incredible variety of layouts!

Joan Holub: Illustrators have often told me that they like to see the picture book dummies I make because, instead of starting from zero, my ideas afford them a bit of a springboard. Some illustrators love to see my dummies, while others don’t want to be influenced. Either is fine with me. (By the way, I love what illustrator Rafael Rosado did with the story! He ultimately decided the color and layouts.)

Emily Starr: Authors are often told to use difficult vocabulary words sparingly, yet you use complex words throughout and really went for it in the opening Warning. Why did you make that decision and was it questioned by your editor?

Joan Holub: Wow! You are sharp. I didn’t even notice I’d done that! My editor never called me out on word complexity, which I certainly appreciate. I think I might have felt stifled. When I was a kid reader, I would simply gloss over any words I didn’t understand. I could usually figure out the general meanings. At the same time, I’m always mindful of not writing book vocabulary that is too hard my audience to read. No words like “hyperbole”!

Emily Starr: Someone might think this is a simple book about a farting superhero, yet you expertly weave in science concepts, songs, history, cultural references, and even an “Are You Evil?” quiz. Why did you incorporate these elements?

Joan Holub: Many of my books incorporate a few learning components. It’s not my main goal to teach, but I do enjoy sneaking in the occasional scientific experiment as per the Gas Giant research. And I love, love, love the “Are You Evil” quiz! Since it’s one of my favorite things in Book One (and a favorite of kid readers), I’ve included more Comix for Fart Boy and friends to read in Book Two.

Emily Starr: What research notes or lists did you keep close by when writing? For example, did you create a list of different ways to say “fart” as part of your writing process? (Nuclear Air Bagel is my favorite!)

Joan Holub: I’m so glad to hear that you are a Nuclear Air Bagel fan! Yes, I went online and gathered a lengthy list of many sayings that incorporate the word “fart”, “stinky”, “smelly”,  or that allude to those kinds of words. Plus I made up some of my own. (Can you say, “Garbanzo Gas Buster?”)

Emily Starr: Was there anything you cut out of the book because it was too controversial or gross?

Joan Holub: In my head, I’m always writing what my inner kid would want to read, and that wouldn’t be something super-gross or controversial. However, some parents or kids might think that even simple farts are gross. So you never know. Whatever gets kids reading works for me.

Emily Starr: As a Mom and an educator, I love the prompts in the back that encourage creativity and set kids up for thinking about the next book. What inspired you to include that aspect and format it as a series of questions? (It sparked a memory of the Rocky and Bullwinkle previews.)

Joan Holub: That’s good to hear! When I finish reading a book that’s full of possibilities for the main characters to do more, I often wonder, “What’s next?” So, I  mean, kids probably wonder: “Will there be a Fartmobile?” “Will Carl ever get a cool sidekick name?” “Do Ninjas fart?” The questions are endless and as I reader, I’d like some to supply some answers! (Stay tuned for Book Two!)

Emily Starr: Any hints about Book Two you can share with our readers?

Joan Holub: Yes! In Book Two: Fart Boy and Reeky Dog: Dino Doom you’ll find:

  • More gadgets! More stanky explosions! More beans!
  • More Crazy Rich Superheroes and Villains comix.
  • Our main characters, Fart Boy, Carl, Liz, and Reeky Dog, and will meet (and learn about) long-ago dinos, plus “enjoy” some out-of-this-world travel.
  • And last but not least, the troublemaking Professor Groovypants-Gravypants-PerfumeLady is back, with a hilarious new minion!

NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLING AUTHOR and MULTIPLE AWARD WINNER JOAN HOLUB has written 220+ books for kids ages 2 to 13. Joan is co-author of the popular Goddess Girls middle grade series of 31 books and the Heroes in Training series of 18 books. Her best-known picture books include Zero the Hero, Little Red Writing, and I Am the Shark. She has written ten of the popular Who Was? series books, including Who Was Babe Ruth? and What is the Statue of Liberty? She’s the author of the This Little Trailblazer series of 10+ board books. Joan’s books have been named Junior Library Guild Selections and Bank Street College’s Best Children’s Books of the Year among many other accolades. Her first graphic novel, FART BOY AND REEKY DOG, has garnered a starred review from Publishers Weekly, among other awards.

Emily Starr

As a former fourth grade teacher and founder of StarrMatica, a STEM publishing company, Emily Starr has developed award-winning K-5 science curriculum and professional learning materials for 20 years. She is a member of the Iowa State Science Leadership Team, a peer reviewer for the National Science Teaching Association’s journal Science and Children, and a frequent presenter at state and national education conferences. Her debut middle grade nonfiction book will be released in 2025 from the Iowa Ag Literacy Foundation.

 

Find Awesome STEM books, classroom activities, writing tips, and MORE

Looking for STEM books and activities to use in your classroom or homeschool? Our STEM Tuesday post has that all and MORE.

STEM Tuesday shines the light on books about this amazing and critical topic. With all that is going on in the news lately, it is more important than ever to introduce young readers to the FUN and exciting STEM books that are out there.

STEM books ENGAGE. EXCITE. and INSPIRE young and old readers alike.

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They encourage students to ask questions, have discussions, engage in problem-solving, and interact across boundaries of knowledge. They invite readers to notice the science all around them!

If you’ve always wondered where to find out about the great new middle grade  titles in STEM , look no further.  You have FOUND your spot!

It’s Searchable! With over 50 different topics, you’ll find just the right book,

activity, or writing tip you need!

https://fromthemixedupfiles.com/stem-tuesday/

 

 

How does STEM Tuesday work? 

EVERY MONTH  we highlight middle grade books with a particular topic in STEM

EACH WEEK we delve into the ways these books can be used in the classroom, offering resources for how to make connections between these STEM books and other topics,  making real-life connections to these STEM books that will encourage discussions and provide valuable resources, and finally we will be offering an interview with a real-life STEM author plus a giveaway of their book!

We have an amazing team of middle grade STEM authors and enthusiasts to bring the excitement of this topic alive.

Let me introduce you to the weekly topics and the fabulous STEM Tuesday Team:

Week 1:  STEM Book List of the Month

This week will highlight a list of 8-10 titles of STEM middle grade books that fit our theme of the month. They will all have links and a bit of information to intrigue you into learning more about them.

Week 2: STEM Tuesday In the Classroom

This week’s post will highlight a few of the books on week 1’s list and give teachers/librarians specific activities for using these books in the classroom. Designed for hands -on activities, discussions, engaging inquiry and MORE!

 

WEEK 3:  STEM Tuesday Crafts & Resources

An out-of-the-box way to use these STEM books in the classroom, library, or at home. Could be an ELA-Science type connection AND/OR a Real-World connection, or even genres of STEM books, how to write, them… whatever. Like the scientists many of us are, this week may be unexpected, but will always be EXCITING!  

 

WEEK 4: STEM Tuesday Author Interviews and Giveaways

This week  highlights one middle-grade STEM book author. You will get a peek inside the mind of an actual STEM author and learn how and why they wrote their book. Be sure to comment this week because you will be entered to win an autographed copy of the book!

 

 

Created by me, Jennifer Swanson, STEM Tuesday was established in 2017. CHECK OUT OUR AMAZING TEAM MEMBERS!!

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Science Rocks! And so do Jennifer Swanson’s books. She is the award winning author of over 25 nonfiction books for children. A self-professed science geek, Jennifer started a science club in her garage at the age of 7. While no longer working from the garage, Jennifer’s passion for science resonates in in all her books but especially, BRAIN GAMES (NGKids) and SUPER GEAR: Nanotechnology and Sports Team Up (Charlesbridge) which was named an NSTA Best STEM book of 2017 and an NSTA Outstanding Trade Book 2017Top reviews include a starred review in Booklist, and recommended reviews from School Librarians Workshop, Library Media Connection, and a Nerdy Book Club award. Her book, Geoengineering Earth’s Climate: Resetting the Thermostat, from 21st Century Books/ Lerner received a Junior Library Guild Selection. You can visit Jennifer at her website www.JenniferSwansonBooks.com.

More than a Buzzword: Inclusion in Middle Grade (a very short list!)

When you work in a school, there are some topics that permeate conversations and crop up in every

corner of life as an educator. Usually, they’re tangled up with buzzwords: engagement, data-driven instruction, differentiation… you could make a pretty long list. My fellow teacher-authors are probably making one even now as they read these words.

Sometimes we get so deep into the weeds on topics like this that we forget why we’re talking about them in the first place. That can definitely happen with my all-time favorite buzzword: inclusion.

 

There’s a lot to unpack in that word. As a special educator, I’ve been a part of panels, focus groups, school-wide initiatives—and I have at least three t-shirts (because if you don’t get a t-shirt, did it even really happen?). But the human side of inclusion—the story—can sometimes get lost in all the planning and coordinating.

That’s when the author in me turns back to the books that, in recent years, have tackled this delicate subject so beautifully and honestly. It’s a long list, but I’ve pared it down to my current top five. Whether you work in education, have a child with special needs, or just like being a good human, these are all worth a look (even if you don’t get a t-shirt).

The Miscalculations of Lightning Girl, by Stacy McAnulty

What it’s about: After a lightning strike grants Lucy Callahan genius-level math abilities and obsessive-compulsive tendencies, she’s been homeschooled and is ready for college at 12. However, her grandmother insists she attend middle school for a year to experience life beyond numbers. Lucy navigates the challenges of public school, friendships, and a community service project at a dog shelter, all while managing her OCD and hiding her extraordinary intellect. Through these experiences, she learns that some problems can’t be solved with equations alone.

Why it’s great for inclusion: This story explores the incredibly challenging landscape of social interactions in school and the nature of friendship. There are a lot of layers, and in some ways, the book raises more questions than it answers—but that’s exactly why it’s such a strong choice for sparking conversation about inclusion.

 

Out of My Mind by Sharon M. Draper 

What it’s about: Melody Brooks is an 11-year-old with cerebral palsy who cannot walk or speak, but she possesses a photographic memory and a brilliant mind. Despite her intelligence, she’s often underestimated due to her physical limitations. When she gains access to a communication device, Melody finally has the opportunity to express herself and prove her capabilities. 

Why it’s great for inclusion: There’s an idea in the special education world we often call presumed competence. At its core, it’s the belief that, regardless of how someone presents or the assumptions others make about them, it’s always best to operate on the assumption that they’re just as capable as anyone else. It also pushes back against the notion that if someone can’t communicate, they must not have anything to say. There are so many kids still learning how to use their voice effectively, and Melody’s transformation in this book is a case study in the power of expression and self-advocacy.

 

Stuntboy, in the Meantime by Jason Reynolds

What it’s about: Portico Reeves, a spirited and imaginative boy, adopts the alter ego “Stuntboy” to navigate the challenges of his daily life. Living in a bustling apartment complex he views as a castle, Portico uses his superhero persona to protect those around him, especially as he grapples with his parents’ escalating arguments and the anxiety they cause. With the support of his best friend Zola, Portico learns coping mechanisms to manage his “frets” and discovers that true heroism lies in resilience and empathy. This illustrated novel combines humor, heart, and a unique narrative style to explore themes of family, mental health, and community.​

Why it’s great for inclusion: In many respects, schools across the country are just beginning to grapple with the growing needs related to anxiety and other mental health challenges in children. Jonathan Haidt’s recent book The Anxious Generation is one of many that explore this issue in depth, backed by compelling research on the rise of mental health struggles in young people.

Recognizing these challenges in the classroom—and building supports to effectively include kids who are navigating them—isn’t easy. But Jason Reynolds introduces the topic with a fun, accessible tone that still deals honestly with the struggle.

Another great read on this subject is Carla Naumburg’s How to Stop Freaking Out: The Ultimate Guide to Keeping Cool When Life Feels Chaotic. I actually interviewed her about the book last year—check that out here if you’re interested in digging a little deeper!

 

Good Different by Meg Eden Kuyatt 

What it’s about: Selah Godfrey has always followed her personal “rules for being normal,” masking her true self to fit in. But when sensory overload leads to an outburst at school, her carefully constructed world begins to unravel. Told in poignant verse, this novel explores Selah’s journey toward self-acceptance and advocacy, highlighting the challenges and triumphs of embracing one’s neurodivergence. An empowering read that underscores the importance of understanding and inclusion.

Why it’s great for inclusion: The concept of masking is generating a lot of conversation right now—especially around how much an autistic child should be expected to change in order to fit into the world around them. Selah’s story offers a powerful lens on that topic. It encourages discussion about the nature of acceptance, neurodivergence, and what true inclusion can (and should) look like in a school setting.

 

Planet Earth Is Blue by Nicole Panteleakos

What it’s about: Set in 1986, this story follows twelve-year-old Nova, a nonverbal autistic girl with a deep passion for space exploration. Recently placed in a new foster home, Nova eagerly anticipates the launch of the space shuttle Challenger, a moment she and her missing sister, Bridget, had planned to watch together. As the countdown to the launch progresses, Nova’s new foster family and teachers begin to recognize her intelligence and potential, challenging their initial perceptions. Through Nova’s perspective, the story explores themes of understanding, resilience, and the profound impact of being truly seen and valued.​

Why it’s great for inclusion: For many years, I’d spend part of September visiting classrooms and showing neurotypical students how to use AAC (Augmentative and Alternative Communication). My goal was to help them understand that different methods of communication are equally valid—and that students who use them deserve to be heard.

Planet Earth Is Blue is a powerful example of this idea in action. Nova is a thoughtful and passionate girl who happens to be nonverbal. In my opinion, nonverbal characters are still underrepresented in books about neurodivergent kids, so it’s refreshing to see a story so fully centered on someone like her.

 

For more great recommendations on the broader topic of diversity in middle grade, absolutely check out our diversity series, which is full of great recommendations, many of which address themes like neurodiversity and inclusion (check out this recent list, for example!). 

What are you reading on this topic? Feel free to leave a comment, and let’s keep the conversation going!